all right we are on air so welcome everyone to the city council business and Community Affairs committee meeting of Thursday January 4th 2024 um I am sitting in today for council member peacock who is out of town and we have two items on our agenda so we will start with um item number one discussion regarding options for pattern zoning projects including potential requests for proposals so I will hand it off to Jane Hudson thank you very much so as you stated we are here to uh discuss the options uh for pattern zoning possibly an RFP being released I've got just a few slides here for you I want to go over um just briefly uh you know pattern zoning um it's simply a method of uh planning zoning for an area and it utilizes the preapproved construction ruction plans for for that area um the map as you see here is the area that we had discussed previously possibly for uh utilizing the pattern zoning you'll notice that the uh bold outline there that is actually the existing core area and then the hatched area here to the West extending over to 24th Avenue that's the area that is proposed to be included so it would be the entire area that you're seeing there on this map should it um move forward with this so some of the things that we've identified in in going through this and reading some of the documents and the research and some of the other cities that have uh utilized this we would be looking at a uh byright administrative approval of these plans now that is um or can be I've noted here it's building code so there are a couple routes that we can go and we'll talk about that as we get into this further but initially what we're looking at is a set of plans that have been reviewed and approved for what the city has adopted as the building codes um it definitely creates uh some infill opportunities in areas uh available Lots uh Redevelopment of lots and um it's an it's easy to adopt because you get uh pre-approved plans for the zones or for the specific neighborhoods and again we'll kind of uh dive into that a little bit deeper here as we go through this um and this is what I'm On Top about so uh some of our options that we have we can um for the RFP and I'm I'm really looking at how we will um set up this RFP that we'll send out so I want to know are we going to be looking at um asking them to do a parcel by parcel review and have in these zones however we break this up into these neighborhoods you know we've got um old Silk Stocking neighborhoods we've got you know the existing neighborhoods in town and so as we go through this will we uh focus on these different neighborhoods and have these uh pre-approved plans for those zones or areas or do we want to just have a catalog of these plans that the consultant has come in and said these plans would typically fit within the community within this map that I've shown you um but in that case we would still require a parcel slash a site review Once the applicant has selected those plans we're going to be looking at easements possible flood plane coverage and so on and so forth like that one of the things in talking with uh staff about this is if we have the catalog there's going to be plans that are just not going to fit on some of these Lots so they would have to say well I want this one while that one doesn't work well I want this one well that one doesn't work so the benefit which it's a huge task I mean I don't want to you know minimize it by any means the the benefit of doing the parcel by parcel review we know that the plans that we get are going to fit on these Lots but it I mean it is um so I'm thinking you know we have Center City which is also within this area and so like those are have predesigned kind of places so is it thinking about the other areas within the map that we've identified um would be similar to something like that if we do a parcel by parcel like there could be certain zones or certain Parcels that have like a color and then it's coordinated to what can fit and is pre-approved on that parcel so that's that's one of my next slides is is discussing those areas specifically is trying to figure out how we want to focus in those areas with those with those plans um so again not mandatory you know but we're still creating the options for for development on a on a smaller scale like you said um so in the RFP that we're going to be sending out do we want to because we do have areas that are zoned R1 we do have areas R2 three do we want to look at only having single family plans do we want to have them give us an option for duplexes do we want to have them look at some options for the adus as well and then you get into the other districts the historic districts the sinod and then the center city form based code if someone is let's just say we use Center City form based code because you brought that up if we get a set of plans that we like for the center city and we know that it would work work for the specific block that you know someone is looking at it's it's it's no DRT it's no review I mean they come in they get their permit they're done so we know that we're getting the plans that we looked at and we like for that area as opposed to you know something else um I do want to say this though in a lot of the the reading that I I did um a lot of these cities in the article TOs and everything they talked about how there zoning regulations and it would take 3 to 5 days just to get a single family permit I mean we we do single family permits in two days sometimes it's the same day so I mean we are very fast in compared to other cities anyway but um this is still going to be at least a day to process the permit anyway so they can't just walk in in an hour and get it probably maybe so I don't know we'll have to see but yeah I mean so for this question specifically I was thinking that we would have different types of options for different areas that it makes sense so like in the R1 we would have options for R1 in places where you know we have multif family or in Center City like we would have different options that are not available in the single family um so I think that all makes sense um I think that it probably makes sense if we're as we're continuing the Adu discussion to have that wrapped into this since this is going to be that's going to be something that we're hoping to have available in single family in some other areas um which would I think be great for the area that is designated um as as we think about Redevelopment in some of those areas um so that's where I I would say yes I would like to see different options depending on what zoning type we have we're going to do it we might as well do everything that we can to help that Redevelopment process go forward agreed uh coun hman uh definitely agree um we should do all of them for clarification the like historic district for example there would be a set of various plans for houses structures that could be built in the historic district I'm glad you Circle back around on that one that um would include the correct type of Windows the correct type of siding that's allowed in the historic district so like those plans would already conform to the historic district regulations and so be like this is what you can build in the shako historic district and it already includes the requirements that's the way I understand it I I would think that that would be the process again we you know the Consultants would have to go to HD and say these are the plans that we've for the different you our our four districts so the historic district commission would review that proposal and say yes we think those work or not okay okay yeah I mean I I'm I'm for doing it in this whole area and really eventually like to see the whole city have have not that you have to only be able to build this 10 houses but that there are preapproved plans that would work throughout the entire city for people so because at some point other areas that are not in the core are going to have Redevelopment issues and things like that so but I think this is a good start I'm yeah council member Grant um I have two questions and one is about phasing but first maybe some clarification on the senad part of this so what could that look like in that particular ular area so the sinad you know is in the overlay district and uh with within that you know they um they have to uh you if they're doing more than uh four bedrooms have to get special use and and stuff like that but if we already have a set of plans that we've looked at and said yes they're approvable for that area they meet the goals and standards that we want for that area um maybe we don't necessarily get rid of the sinod but they would just get again it's that automatic approval if we've looked at it and said as we view the community as we move you know through this process um if if it's been reviewed and um you think that it's something that fits in that that neighborhood then it would be one of the U plans in the catalog um and the reason I asked for that is cuz in my mind single family and sinad I'm like What's really the difference so I guess it's going to be the bed bedroom number cuz another parts of well my w I'm thinking um you know single family could have more rooms uh the other part about phasing um could we what does it have to be all together or if we know we want adus to hit the ground running could we Fast Track that one and um I also see where it would have overlap with places like the sinod and all of it really but um would it and also I happened to know somebody who said they would turn over their cash free of charge uh pattern book of their ideal 80s uh but I do think that one could be developed quickly so as far as that when the RFP goes out actually put that as the priority and then yes I kind of well I was just thinking it phases cuz like if you wait to do all of it together how long will that take before you have uh all the pattern books together now you're releasing all of them so they're going if they're going through the neighborhoods to look at what uh would be developable on the lot um I almost think it would be doubling up to do the adus and go back and do the single family I don't know I mean I think that's what they need to show to us how they're going to do that for us okay and how long it would take yeah cuz I know that we're working on the Adu ordinance and it would be great when pass that there was like the option for people uh in a certain income range to maybe save on some costs and have a pattern book for ad specifically that they could speed up their process and I'm just thinking about people across the spectrum of you know kids with disability or elderly family member or whatever living situations um and I think that was it for me so I guess I have a question Rel similarly related to the phasing what is what is our timeline for this like what do we think like when would the RFP go out what how long would we give somebody like what are we shooting for well moving past today I mean I would want to get the RFP done as soon as possible yeah um as soon as possible I mean honestly you know we would just uh team up and and get staff working on it as fast as we could and then um oh I'm trying to remember do do we give them 30 days when we did the that was going to be my question we do 30 so 30 days for the RFP to collect that be their death run proposals okay ibody requested yeah but I think 30 would be fine for this one um so do we have to have a discussion about um and I don't know if you feel like you already have the answer about parcel by parcel or just doing a catalog um but does the committee does any people on the committee have feelings about which route we should go I like to par by par yeah might as well yeah I feel like might as well take take the whole chunk do yeah and really kind of have a comprehensive review of all of it because then we're not then that's I feel like less staff time too um if they're doing all of that work then you don't have to go back and say oh this one doesn't fit and kind of have that negotiation which is going to slow the process and that's not the intent of this um it's really to allow people to know exactly what can be built pick the plans and then move forward takes into account Corner lots and odly shaped Lots I mean some of the issues that we've had with Center City yes like Corner lots and different things so this could help us in in those specific areas too yeah like I said I mean if we if they brought in that approved plan that we you know have for that Center City area that's a month they've saved instead of having to go to DRT so yeah perfect amazing cust great I might have missed this cuz I came in 3 minutes late but with that parcel by parcel is it looking at like the like if something's illegally subdivided or that's the other other weird things that's the other thing it'll point out yeah be a huge benefit because that's one of the things I was concerned with um with the adus is is it is it IL a lot or not so yeah definitely okay yeah well definitely for that any other questions that we need to discuss or kind of things moving forward I don't think so and that that was you know what I needed to know is is U if you wanted the single family duplex the adus and then um including the S and the Center City area is and um you don't want mixed use buildings or commercial buildings at this point are those best D on a Case by case I I've just wonder about like uh I guess it depends on where it's going I I think people should come forward and let you take a look at if they're going to be putting commercial or mixed juice next to in a residential neighborhood or something like that I think you guys need to have that opportunity yeah I mean I feel like the only place that right now is zoned in some of those ways is Center City form based code um so maybe it would make sense when they're looking in the center city area to think about what those uses might be but I mean a lot a large swath of that whole area is is not zoned that way and so those would have to come forward um to update the zoning anyway and that's you know a different process okay counc member yeah I'd say for probably like yeah Center City downtown area where we currently where we would be most likely to see mixed use would be in those areas I would assume so maybe there and then other commercial areas would come forward through the regular process but it would be maybe nice in the center city to have some pre-approved mixed use buildings I think it would and like I said it might be the opportunity for and downtown developers to come in and utilize that okay that's yeah do you want to go first or yeah it's also in the mixed use vein and thinking about those weird Corners in Center City so we're saying a pattern book could be for all our weird Corners like these are some options that would fit right here given the zoning the power lines whatever um I think oh also so if it I just think about the opportunity to redevelop parking lots um so if we were just keeping it to Center City then if we were looking at a place like Ed Noble Parkway we wouldn't be thinking of a pattern that could fit there the map doesn't go over that far yeah okay not fully to the not the future though for sure so the um hatched side is the extra piece that we're adding to Center City so the one that has the hard boundary is the designation of Center City core area yeah we were sorry yes cor Norman um okay but yeah there's probably some there parking lots in this area that could definitely be a mixed use situation if it was commercial just clarification mix is a building that has a business on the bottom and apartment on the top okay s yeah okay okay um do we need to come back back I don't does we feel like we need to come back before the RFP I don't not to B I think probably it could move on yeah yeah okay we will move on to item number two which is continued discussion regarding operating policies for the young family athletic center and I recognized Jas persons I was really hoping Jame continue into M I guess that didn't work out for me but let me see I'm still learning how to use a computer so be patient all right there we go it's 20 24 I know almost 25 years into this century exactly uh just giveing you a little bit of update on facility policies we came to Baka last month and uh yall asked for us to kind of update policies of uh what we kind of presented to you but real quick just give you a little update on the center uh here's a picture of what it looks like right now or what it did look like until the uh they started doing a little bit more work inside the gym it's uh uh this is from the clinic overlooking the gym portion uh just from a different Corner inside uh the gym uh this is looking at the video screen that's inside the gym it's uh approximately 74t wide we can when we do have uh e uh Esports going on which we think we can attract uh uh big tournaments to to go along with that uh that can be divided equally into uh three different screens that uh anybody that's sitting in the gymnasium portion can see see all those little boxes right now they have the whole background for it all those boxes um hold about a 12in panel that goes on there and I think there's about five or 600 of those panels that get plugged in there completely to complete that screen uh this is a look at inside of the retail space that that we have going on right there we have a basketball court paint on the floor uh we're still working with the Trey young Family Foundation to come up with an agreement to operate that space uh one of our conference rooms uh just keep looking at one of the pools I wanted to uh bring up that right now we're working with the contractor the all the deck work that goes completely around the pool the uh we rejected that work so uh there's problems with uh the drainage it's not completely all uh perfect it goes into that deck drainage you can see in that bottom corner there a deck drain that goes all the way around that wasn't straight some of that was uh peeking up above the concrete and the squirrel they have a swirl prop pattern on there for when you're walking that you have a certain kind of grip to make sure you have on there uh and some it wasn't consistent on the north side of the pool it was really deep and as we were looking at that we were scared that that could possibly cut wet feet so uh we have uh we proposed to our general contractor that's out there right now to completely remove all the concrete replace it uh they have agreed to that um at no cost uh to the city we're also uh same thing happening in the recreation pool we rejected all this concrete you can kind of see the uh the drain areas we rejected that and they cut it uh cut it out was going to replace it but we did put them on pause on that same thing in here we rejected the concrete inside here but in um much smaller area in here the uh we did come to a compromise to save them time because it's very extensive that's about a A8 or 10 in um thick concrete that's going right there um instead of replacing that we've come to an agreement that they will put tile in there the city has to purchase the tile to go in there but they look at that as added value so that's just kind of our compromise to go in there instead of them ripping out all that concrete we think the cost of the tile is about $20,000 so uh we think that they added value to that it's probably worth that area um going in into that small wreck pool uh what y'all asked us to come back with was uh basically to update this policy and I think what we heard last time was just to make sure that we have are clear on what activities and how much time we have for the public to spend in there and make sure that they have a a a greater share of all the time inside the the the WF fact so we did take out uh non-passive and only left the passive activities that's the only thing that we edited up there and after our discussion and internal um talks uh between the parks department and and our supervisors out there um we're going to work out um having both one at least 100 hours of open Community time um at no cost to the public in addition to adding in that Sunday uh Sunday Times which I think everybody was kind of agreeable that we needed to be open on seven days a week uh so we added all that in and hopefully that is to everybody's liking and we can go ahead and take this to part board for uh approval and uh we are and I'll read this to make sure everybody kind of knows what's going on is that the wac will be open to the public non- holiday weeks a minimum of 80 hours the Parks and Recreation Department commits to have the center available for Norman residents for Passive activities at an a uh average of 70 hours per week the parks and rec U department and the wac will commit to having a minimum of 100 hours of community open gy/ swim time annually for Norman residents at no cost open to the facility for for uh for public scheduled open and pass passive activities the only thing that we kind of um took out there when we were talking about the extra 100 hours last time was doing that outside of normal operating hours um so we're uh probably going to fit um some of that time into our normal operating hour so if we're opening on Sundays uh there'll be we'll try to hit a couple Sundays a month where anybody can come in at at no cost as long as you're a Norman resent um Jason is there a definition for Passive activities Within the agreement when you're looking at uh uh like the recreation field it's pretty common to refer to passive activities as basically nonprogrammed activities is where somebody can come in and you inside the uh wfac you know pickle ball shoot baskets play volleyball go swimming um this anything that we have available um or not programmed at that time and depending on what time of the week it it is we'll definitely try to have uh as we get towards the weekend and we know we're going going to have uh basketball games um on the weekend we'll probably take up our our pickle ball courts they're all going to be taped on um so we'll tape them on early in the week and probably remove them towards the end of the week and two reasons for that one you know we want to make sure pick a ball um has plenty of time to place inside and also to is recommendation from our floor manufacturer not to leave tape down there any they don't want any longer than 72 hours because it kind of messes with your surface um so this to constantly take it up and um remove it and then probably rotate the courts that we have it on Long answer I know you asked a simple question and I ramble to make I just wanted to make sure that people understand what passive activities stands for and that you know this this is really the basically like open opportunity for residents to there they can come in and um do anything that's within the restraints of the what shooting baskets we also walking somebody through the other the gym the other day and we're going to measure the complete length it takes to do a lap around there we um it might be somewhere around a half mile so it might be um especially during cool season or um super hot season it might be a great place for people to come run uh few updates uh from when we presented the um Council on our cost of stuff uh uh these are basically are uh memberships uh either by month or annual I know it's a little bit uh kind of hard to see when you put a script try to put so much information on here but the highlighted portion is what we have changed and I did put something in italic um bold down on the bottom and I want to make sure everybody that that can see this that we've had a lot of questions about scholarships first thing is it our individual annual passes uh for seniors vets militaries or first respond responders we we did have that set at the same price as Norman res residents we've had a lot of requests to make the those discounts a lot more or a little bit more a little bit differentiate from a regular member so we did take those prices down uh on a annual pass is about 50 uh for an individuals about $50 cheaper a year for at $250 for um anybody fits in that category family pass for uh a full year would be $550 individual pass per month would be 25 or family pass would be 50 and that's um kind of compared to uh this area up here where you have 300 600 30 or 60 depending on what you sign up for and um as scholarships kind of following the same model that we put it in at the Westwood Pool uh we want to make sure that it's accessible and affordable by anybody that wants to come in there so uh we kind of measure this off the federal poverty level or um one or right next to if you get free lunch or reduced lunch depending on what it is at because Norm public schools use those same standards um so for an individual be either uh if you're on the upper and it sounds weird upper end of the poverty SC um um level it would be $20 per month or $35 for a family per month or uh on individual if you're on that free free lunch or the lower end of the poverty be $10 or $25 a month so we did that's new information that we just got out there and uh we're going to have those scholarships open year round so if anybody that fits in those categories that want to come to the wfac they can apply for that and we'll get them hooked up these are kind of list of uh we've been busy trying to get everybody ready to to come into the wfac and have entered into a few agreements uh we went over the Optimus club uh we last time I talked to you we had to sign agreement with him uh so so we completed our registration period uh in what we call a Community Partnership with with the Optimus club and we have registered over 1,700 kids which is uh by by far the largest amount that any uh basketball league has ever registered in in Norman I think the uh Optimus club which has been ticking pretty well the past couple years they've been averaging about 1,200 so we're about 500 kids above that um for this very first year we're hoping to start our league here in a couple weeks and as you look at the gym we're a little bit scared uh so hopefully we'll get access inside that gym and are able to play those basketball games if not we have a little bit of fallback playing of using the Optimus gym or rec centers and maybe getting some of the schools and until the WF fact's ready uh we have sent a contract over to Norman Public Schools we're waiting to hear back from them but uh that would just be access for them to use it practices or or planned activities for any kind of middle school games or high school games games if they need it for uh $50,000 a year and that's basically accessing the old uh Tiff funds when that Tiff got Unwound there was $350,000 that's setting in a pot specifically that only can be used for rental of of this complex sooner Swim Club they have verbally committed to the contract that we uh sent to them it's $15 per hour per Lane and 25% of any swim meet that they have uh inside there we have entered an agreement with rise volleyball club uh the the that's $50,000 a year up to 1,400 hours of uh rental time and that's uh per hour per court so if they're using one court that um counts as a an hour and most normally when they're practicing they'll need anywhere between three to five courts uh so that that would probably get soaked up pretty quick as you would imagine uh y'all uh approve the the contract with beanock uh coffee and snow our last council meeting we are in communication with the trade young Family Foundation for the Adidas store we have entered into a marketing agreement with uh youth scoreboards it's a local company that uh owned by Barry switcher is one of the owners this the same group to put in uh free scoreboards at our baseball at reefs Park complex so the agreement with them is a full TurnKey agreement that they'll sell marketing and they have a uh to put up on our large video board uh they're estimating that that they'll bring in between a quarter million to a half million dollars a year in sales for marketing on that board uh so our agreements at uh full turn key they do all the design upload everything and um put the content on that that board of 50% of all the the sales that they get they get to keep and then if we give them leads which we have plenty of leads um that we get to keep uh 75% of it uh we have entered in an agreement with uh a a organization called student athlete nil um uh everybody probably heard of um was it what is it image likeness names langage there we go you think somebody's watches much football I would know all that uh but that's a it's independent group that is one of the leading groups that works for with ou Athletics uh we have I believe it's a $10,000 a year agreement um and they're going to get us connected with a bunch of athletes that are currently playing basketball and volleyball at you and they're going to do social media campaigns for us appearances and even go as far as wearing some of our WF fact gear um when they're doing these social media appearances uh it's pretty cool and one of the things that we want to focus on is uh girls girls basketball or with the Women's Basketball team uh we think that that's a market that needs a lot of help uh when you compare boys to girls in our basketball leagues it's about 80% boys and 20% girls so hopefully that we can get those those girls um or women that play at OU involved and that they can get um our local kids excited about playing basketball uh and the last one that we have entered into is a musco streaming service this is a an agreement with uh musco as obviously Le says but they control all of our streaming cameras that are inside of the wfac uh so I believe the initial fee to pay purchase all the cameras is about $300,000 um but they have put somewhere in the neighborhood of cameras throughout the the center and our agreement with them is that we get to keep 80% it's a pay wall uh it streams any of the events that kind of go on in the wfac um and it's a pay wall that's up that you have to pay $5 or whatever the price to be set at and we get to keep 80% of whatever that uh streaming produces kind of want to highlight a couple of our important dates say we hope that youth basketball leagues will begin Janu the week of January 15th as you can tell that's in two weeks we are working very very feverless to get that done hopefully we'll hit that hit that Mark there's a few electrical things we need in the gym uh uh our big thing one of the big things right now we're working on is uh custom trap doors to hide all of our electrical outlets that's in the floor we're trying to figure out how to make sure that those get hidden um we realized at some certain point that there were going to be metal panels that uh which is a different surface than our wood panels and one it wasn't aesthetically very pleasing and some of them were really really close to our playing surface so we wanted to make sure that we had a consistent plane surface to make sure everybody that's playing out there that's uh safe uh we have a ribbon cutting uh ceremony plann for February 19th we have set and sent that out that's at 3:30 that afternoon uh hope to see everybody there there's no school that day it's uh it's President's Day um lucky for the um US city employees we get to work on that day so it's not a not a normal day off for us anyways but we're going to have a big ceremony on that day try to kick everything off um we also have our art Dedication that day I think we're planning on doing our art dedication at 1:00 um then uh follow up with 3:30 uh ribbon cutting ceremony and uh that's the day after the All-Star game so Trey um will be in town he'll fly back just to participate in that ribbon cutting ceremony with us uh kind of what we're talking about with with the decks getting replaced over there in the the pool area we do think that's going to add a little bit of time uh so we don't we were kind of hoping to have the full facility open on February 19th but we need to give them probably a little grace period to change everything out and get up and operating so uh between them uh between the 19th and uh March 1st we're going to just do open open houses and demonstration classes demonstration activities going to be completely free to the public we'll set up pickle ball courts one day we'll have open gym one day we'll do Fitness classes another day uh trying to get as many people in there and interested as possible um and those will just be selected times during during that that week and a half between the opening and March 4th and then March 4th we plan on uh opening to the public we hope the pool's ready but uh it's going to be kind of a tight window but we think right now we have good hopes we're thinking good thoughts we want you to think good thoughts that that all will happen um before before then so uh I got uh once again I got Trey asking if youall have any questions we have to answer anything go ahead um so the pool may not be done by then but on the ribbon cutting day would people be able to still see inside there so there's a our hopes once again we're hoping and um even if it's just through the doors or the windows but being able we think we uh if the deck's all completely done we'll be able to um go in there uh so once the contractor puts uh uh plaster in that pole um and water it has to set for about two two and a half weeks before the State Department of Health will come by and um sign our our poll permit so we hope that there will be water in the pool at that point where people can at least walk in there and see what it's going to look like and we think that or hope that the water will be that pool and give the appearance that we're almost there but just people can't get in there and it is the same thing it's very similar to what happened at the senior center um so we're going to um ask planning Jane you look awfully nice today uh that we get a partial occupancy permit of everything that um besides the pool so that we can get in there and we're hoping to have that in the next couple weeks so doors are glass though right so people could see through even if it wasn't open yes they can still okay but we by February 19th we think that it will be done in full of water we just don't think we'll have a full sign off to have actual people inside the pool just yet and the store won't be open by then probably the store will not be open by then uh right now as we're getting closer to it the the young families before we open up for basketball they're going to it's kind of like at the mall you'll see a a big white area with a marketing opportunity on on the front of it and it'll have a door and basically close that that area off as uh the the contractors um get that store ready so that we'll think that store probably be ready sometime in March okay and then is there a space where you might be able to display the this is what we have and this is what could be added on like with the pickle ball quarts and the outdoor stuff we talked about and the pool like kind of like this is amazing and here's what we even have more oh heck yeah so when we'll have maps of everything especially uh what we could set up as so we'll have eight basketball courts that could be set up when you walk in there it's kind of deceiving cuz we have the the big Championship Court looks like we have Seven Courts but it's really eight courts we'll have a setup for if you have a full volleyball tournament going on at 12 and we'll be able to show that on the map same thing with uh pickle ball if have a big pickle ball event going on you can have up to 18 and we can put that um digitally and have it rotating on any of our uh televisions that that are going on in there and all of our televisions are uh the AV uh company that we're working with it's all going to be well I think we have 20 something TVs in there and plus the big screen displays not including um we'll be able to control and Market anything we want to on that so we'll be able to definitely advertise what it could be or can be okay thanks um so we haven't heard a lot about the Norman Regional space when are they planning to be operational and like what is their buildout looking like so they're pretty much in line with us uh they are actually I think that their punch out list or their uh walk through is Monday ours is the fallowing Tuesday and once we do our walk through and develop our punch list that's when we start turning to planning and asking for partial occupancy permits uh so it's hard to believe that you know 2019 we started designing and went through a pandemic and now it's 2024 it seems like uh yesterday but it's been an awfully long period but next week we're doing our our our walkthrough what we think are our final walkthroughs but everything but the pool and um the hospitals the day before ours so they'll be Monday and Tuesday once they get their punch out list they're going to start uh moving stuff in but they think uh we talked about we'll know more when the Clinic's going to open next week but we think that they're going to be sometime right when we are shooting somewhere around March when they open okay so they're they can't move in until you get all that kind of completed and correct okay so they have to do a walk through and um get their punch list and ready as go and then they have to get uh a temporary occupancy permit which I think was what they'll probably get as well um to to occupy okay I two questions sure you're speaking about agreements and receiving um I guess plus percentage of the revenue from certain agreements right is there a way to track how much money that they would be earning as it relates to the watch so say you have an agreement with somebody and they make 300 Grand off advertisements in the wi fa the events and your agreement is 80% 50% 75% whatever you said it and you actually only get 50% of 200,000 yeah how how would you track it so as part of part of our agreements uh and we can share that with you Shakira the uh uh that they have to especially with our marketing firm that we're working with that every agreement that they sign they have to give to us so we'll know exactly and we sign off and approve uh all the marketing agreements so we don't get weird things that pop up on our are big screens or videos that going on that we don't approve of uh but we see those agreements as they get approved and we know exactly what the payout is okay and uh as evidence or ticketing that will have a history in this program that we we're looking at and we'll be able to tell how many um times it rolls through our our computer and shows up on the displays wow but on different so if we're talking about with uh sooner swim club and they're having a tournament there uh not as documented um but we'll be depending on them to uh turn in Gate receipts and how much that uh entry fee is so if your entry fee is $100 per team and we have three teams participating that's pretty easy to calculate but if they're charging an emission charge more than likely they'll collect the revenue and we'll depend on them to turn in those receipts to us at the end of the day another question yeah I may have another one but I'm working it up okay think we're just waiting on you because I don't know if there's any other questions I'll let okay okay uh just to be clear too we we uh got the land for this through the Tiff deal MH by ending the previous Tiff part of the agreement was we got this land for free for free I wouldn't call it free we paid for a price and then they gave us back incentives on stff reduced rate and did we did we get any Tiff funds did you mention that for this we yeah we we reallocated some remaining funds I believe that were for the cultural facility renamed them Recreational facility funds with that project plan Amendment and allocated that towards this project I want to say it was about three and A5 million does that sound right some I think the uh I think the purchase of lamb was 2 and a half and I think the money we got back was 3.2 Mill million and ended up because it took so long to start the project it sit in an interest AC crewing account and we got about 3 and half million once we withdrawed it and put added it to the project amount and before this location where were we going to do it uh there was a couple places mentioned great question uh we were talking over there kind of by the YMCA or Optimus gym was our our main area that we were talking about I think there was other ones that got suggested but uh this was the main one that was pushed forward I remember the adg did at some point a a three site plan it was and I don't remember the third sight off the top of my head it was either at Reeves or U oh it was Ruby Grant was it was at Ruby Grant okay cool thanks those Contra for the third party yes counc Nash all right so the uh the 70 hours a week that are being uh committed to public passive activities uh is that 100% of the facilties being available to the public during that time it probably be uh no U so it' be a a portion of the facility uh and we don't think if we had 100% of facility open that it would be anywhere close to being occupied it's very large uh so when when talking about uh when we'll have an open lane or open lanes or open courts um that would be what we consider into that um 70 hours week so uh if we have games going on on six courts and we have two courts available for the public time would consider that part of our 70 hours a week okay so at least a portion of each of activity uh area will be available today all right and I would I mean I don't want to commit to any hours but I would say say the majority of the time that uh it's all going to be divided up into different activities but the whole place will be um besides the pool the pool's pretty it's chunked up between uh Swim Club the high schools or home schools a few other groups but we we think that the majority of the time we've always left like two or three lanes open where people can come and um do laps okay yeah when you're swimming laps too um you don't I don't don't think of it as like the Olympics where there's one person per Lane typic those lanes are about six feet wide so you can fit two or three swimmers and they they're going back and forth at the same time okay really appreciate the the work you put into it oh thank getting that language in there any other questions with way okay thank you for the work I'm excited to see this move forward and that we finally have a ribbon cutting date and it's been a long time long time coming no clue how excited we are to get to February 19th all right um if there are no final questions this meeting is adjourned